Commented on abhicomet's review
Sep 29, 2005 10:41 AM
Your knowledge is as dwarfed as your words. May God forgive you, fo ryou do not know what you are. Pity on you!
Commented on wizardofoz's review
Sep 29, 2005 10:32 AM
When you are illiterate, dont open your mouth. You have no pluck to even spell IIPM. Stay away.
Commented on jlulla's review
Apr 07, 2005 10:14 AM
I am a pass out of IIPM Delhi 98 batch. I surely can vouch for Delhi IIPM, but have no experience of Mumbai. Though i've hread its as good. But the good thing I heard is all key IIPM faculties teach at all IIPM branches on a rotation basis in the same academic year, and moreover the manageent is sa...me.
GOTA is the ineternational study tour where IIPM students attend classes at international universities and visit companies.
I can assure you IIPM MBA never takes 2.5 years.
Fees i guess is 4 lac plus..
You can read my review on this site for more information.
Take care
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Commented on mediexpert's review
Apr 07, 2005 09:34 AM
Oh, jesus, please forgive me for the things I’m about to say
I killed you in my mind today
I cut you up, I watched you bleed
I killed you in my heart today
For everything you did to me
I murdered you a hundred times
I shot you dead and never cried
I killed you in my mind today
I la...ughed and watched you die
Screaming at me all on fire
Liar, liar, liar
I buried you with my desire
Liar, liar, liar
I buried you so far below
Liar, liar, liar
I hate to see you go
Oh, jesus, please forgive me
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Commented on devanshu_b's review
Apr 05, 2005 01:55 PM
I know you are one of those dim-witted skeptics who not believe in anyone’s cabability, but are also incapable yourself. If you have really passed out of IIPM, shame! For those reading your bogus review will know it point by point what a sham you are.
A, there is no class that has batch siz...e more than 50,
B, the young teachers are rated the best by students and its no joke, its an achievement,
C, there are more than 500 cases (75 papers x 6-10 cases each plus an entire subject called case study) taught to students
D, IIPM has one of India’s biggest manpower consulting companies as one of its offshoot plus 50 managers working full time for placements… do not need help of your friend consultant, liar!
E, IIPM has never hired any agency ever!
F, I have a degree!
Plus read my review on IIPM on this site to educate yourself!
Remember, I am a student of IIPM, you are NOT! And if you self accredit the right to rate it then I can do the same to write a review about your family background! Hope you get the point!Read More
Commented on devanshu_b's review
Apr 05, 2005 01:53 PM
I know you are one of those dim-witted skeptics who not believe in anyone's cabability, but are also incapable yourself. If you have really passed out of IIPM, shame! For those reading your bogus review will know it point by point what a sham you are.
A, there is no class that has batch size mor...e than 50,
B, the young teachers are rated the best by students and its no joke, its an achievement,
C, there are more than 500 cases (75 papers x 6-10 cases each plus an entire subject called case study) taught to students
D, IIPM has one of India’s biggest manpower consulting companies as one of its offshoot plus 50 managers working full time for placements… do not need help of your friend consultant, liar!
E, IIPM has never hired any agency ever!
F, I have a degree!
Plus read my review on IIPM on this site to educate yourself!
Remember, I am a student of IIPM, you are NOT! And if you self accredit the right to rate it then I can do the same to write a review about your family background! Hope you get the point!
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Commented on k_snsat's review
Jun 25, 2004 01:42 PM
Needless to say, you are a hoax, a fraud. No guesses.. IIPM does not charge 12 lac.. one third of it. But u are right for one thing, one faints by just looking at IIPM faculty, because they are the best.
Commented on manishvd_81's review
May 17, 2004 01:45 PM
I'd prefer staying away from acuusing but will like to convey you dont deserve to be here and talking about IIPM. Enough has been mentioned about you here!
Commented on coolguy0072004's review
May 17, 2004 01:39 PM
Rating a management institution is no child play. Your review is written in a lighter mood than .. so i dont take it seriously, but strongly disapprove it!
Commented on own review
Oct 28, 2003 06:57 PM
5. I too praised Loyola and other colleges.. we all know they are one of the best but they don’t get best placements!! Because they teach a better number of students vis-à-vis their infrastructure and subsidy given by the govt., thus bringing the packages to realistic figures. And as you ...say they’re not for management, compare them in their own field.
6. Thank you for giving an extra star in your ranking. No I am not acting sardonic.
7. A realistic way to know about an institute is to talk to its students. You said you did, and did not get a response as tall as the name. Firstly, I’ll be surprised to know if any IIPM student can say that. All IIPM students I know of are as contented as I am. Secondly I’ll say that there are success stories as well as failures in every college. This proves that an institute is never a non-performer; it is us if we don’t work hard. In the corporate world they say that only non-performers crib. And a trivial variety of such students exists everywhere, you met them? May be!
8. Wherever you join, you’ll have to toil your own efforts to achieve success.. wish you a great career!
9. Every year about 125-150 companies participate in IIPM’s campus placement session. It’s the highest in India. They also have a dedicated placement cell where about 20 managers are working full time. That also is highest in India. IIPM gets a strategic advantage over others with its consulting firm Planman that has a plethora of clients who come for placements. As they see that all Planman consultants giving them fine services are all IIPM pass outs.
10. 5 star rating to IIPM!! What IIPM gave me was nothing less. Weigh each word of mine!
Thanks again for approving my review. All the best!
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Commented on own review
Oct 28, 2003 06:56 PM
In your note u mentioned about Business Today rankings. As a matter of fact, you’ll be shocked to know this one. Verify this from anyone who is in the admin or teaching or management of any college who ever participated in BT survey (I got this from a reliable source). The market research comp...any they hired for the job was Cosmode. And after one such survey that Cosmode presented to BT, they realized how the survey report published in BT was so much different from what they had actually prepared. The real findings were deliberated and ‘edited’ by the editorial staff of BT. Then Cosmode sent a letter to all participating colleges apprising them of this misconduct and broke off with BT. Game?
3. May be you’re still laughing on comparison with IIMs!! Me too!! Because the IIMs are crying. IIPM’s ‘Dare To Think Beyond IIMs’ has been taught to IIM –A students as a case study in their classes! Not a single talking head of IIM has had the pluck to challenge it!! You know why? I know you know!!
4. Fees I discussed in the first point. Placements! If IIM’s claim to fame is their placements.. they are no doubt the best! And we also know how they manage it. But just think of it, their claim to fame is not a better course curriculum or some extra ordinary teachers (80% of IIPM’s visiting faculty is from IIMs or FMS, and the internal IIPM faculty I felt were more stimulating). It is because of the limited number of seats that the cream-de-la-cream of India joins them. The recruiters know that ‘intelligent’ students join IIM (as only they can crack the tough entrance tests). So IIM is like a reputed placement consultancy firm who has good profiles in its database... heard anybody saying it has a better courseware than may be top 100 B schools! For IIPM, you and I feel that way! Right Nishant?Read More
Commented on own review
Oct 28, 2003 06:55 PM
tidings on brain drain. IIPM is not govt sponsored, nor is its infrastructure subsidized Viz IIMs, IITs and the FMSs who get acres of land free of cost. Wherever the govt has subsidized education.. it has not reached large number of students esp in the case of MBA education (again thanks to the MBA ...mafia), and most of those (students) who benefited from it, made hay with our income tax money. It is not their fault too, they have the right to chose the best option for them.. it is again a failure on govt’s part to contain this practice. So when indigenous institutions like IIPM fulfill that gap, a kind of favor to the nation, they have the right to choose their fee pattern. It is actually market driven. If they would not be giving quality for that amount, students would reject the institute. Moreover, IIPM’s fees is just the average of what other PRIVATE b schools charge.. so it cant be compared to those of funded institutes.
2. As students (back in 96), we wanted (and demanded) our institute to participate in rankings by various business magazines as at that time it had not participated in any of them. That was not to know whether we are good or bad, but a curiosity how the world sees us. Our teachers and the management explained how these rankings do not matter to us as so provably our teaching was so superlative. They also explained how we may not get the rankings we deserve because considerable weightage was given to the infrastructure i.e. the land area and the building etc.. Which at that time was admittedly not par with the govt funded institutes. Now when the institute has developed phenomenally, it probably decided to participate. When we asked this question to the management in a recent alumni meet, they explained how they participated in some of those rankings which gave more weightage to the courseware and intellectual capital, where IIPM scores high points. Sounds logical? I hope it does!
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Commented on own review
Oct 28, 2003 06:54 PM
been able to give the country.
In a land where the greatness of a teacher is reflected by the amount of education he has spread, here in this field of management we have teachers who want to limit the spread of education for their own respect in society as well as for the profits and superficial gl...amour of the MBA graduates. They are comparable to our corrupt and illiterate politicians who don’t want to educate the public because of the fear that the first thing educated public would do is to reject them. In fact keeping in mind the level of education of our management educators they are a worse lot, for it is worse to be educated and yet wanting education to be limited so that you can milk it than to be uneducated and wanting the masses to remain so.
Being from the management field himself one might wonder what makes Prof. Arindam Chaudhuri write all this. The truth is in spite of all the hype, he does believe that MBA is one field of education which shapes up personalities, so thousands more should benefit out of it and in turn help the country develop faster. At IIPM at least, this is what they strive for.
Now the response to your points:
1. I too was a confused aspirant at your age. But writing half-baked uninformed critiques will never help. Your apprehension is also understandable. But to put people in pigeonholes without knowing them is not reasonable. May I suggest that you pick up the brochures of various institutes and compare their course content, then judiciously decide which is better (that’s what I did). You yourself have said that IIPM’s pros are its courseware and the teacher ... what else should a management institute stand for? More basket ball courts per student?? Or more number of toilets per student??
Yes brother, the course fee is high. Wish it was low, ideally free of cost i.e. state sponsored. For it is in the interest of the nation to have more number of qualified managers. Remember the MBA mafia and all those Read More
Commented on own review
Oct 28, 2003 06:53 PM
FMS, Delhi in a frantic bid to justify the tough entrance tests once said in an interview with CSR that so many questions in so little time basically was a test of the individuals ability to make quick decisions which is the most important aspect of management.
The reality however is that, if you t...ake decisions too quickly you would turn out to be more of a damager than a manager. For a small change in a product such a lot of time consuming systematic research is required. Even before the research is undertaken a whole lot of time is spent on deciding who should be given the contract. All this because such a lot of money is at stake.
Looking at things around one is forced to feel that this country today has a mafia operating in the field of MBA education. A group of people with vested interests who want to keep this simple common sense education limited only to a few so that their starting salaries can be artificially jacked up to anything between Rs. 6 lakhs and 10 lakhs per annum. If they are so good then why don’t our public sector companies too employ them and revive instead of going on sale. Why don’t we produce 2000 MBAs in each of the IIMs with such phenomenal facilities, acres of land and huge buildings? (Harvard, Boston, Leeds.. all world’s best b schools train much more than 2000 students in each of their campus of the size of IIMs). It is not done so that companies get intimidated by the huge infrastructure, in which just about 150 to 200 students are made to feel in the ninth clouds, and get compelled to pay astronomical sums of money. These schools therefore create an artificial scarcity and capitalize on it. If the number of students are not artificially and unnecessary limited the salaries perhaps would come down to Rs. 1.8 lakhs per annum at the maximum which is their actual worth and with more better quality MBAs the growth rate of our country might break the 2% to 3% barrier which the current number of highly educated MBAs have Read More
Commented on own review
Oct 28, 2003 06:51 PM
a few lines on the IIT hype itself, I guess, would not be inappropriate.
Inspite of all the current hype which was built around the IITs the reality is that the IIT graduates have not served the country’s interests the way they were expected to, because, they were rare commodities in the Indi...an market for engineers. Most of them were available floating around freely in America or some rare ones in the Indian MBA market. The reality also is that IIT education has nothing to do with the IT revolution and success stories in the Silicon Valley. Agreed many of the people involved in top positions in Silicon Valley might be ex IITians but it is the knowledge they acquired over the last 20 - 30 years and the entire shift in focus that they under went in their career after leaving IIT that helped them reach where they are today. Even today the software part of education at IIT is not world class. In fact it is a pity that they tied up with a private education company to spread the IIT, Kharagpur and IIT, Delhi certified courses through a shady arrangement with them (by setting up something called CEP, a private body with a managing director inside the IIT Kharagpur campus and FITT, another private body with a managing director inside the IIT, Delhi campus) in an effort to confuse the students that they were getting something from IIT.
It made the so called IIT certificates available from shoddy shops set up across the country. Eventually, the company got closed since even the IIT certification could not cover up the primitive contents that the IIT certified courses had.
IIPM also fell for it and made an alliance with this private company, in an attempt to search for good partners to provide quality IT education to its students. It was only later that IIPM realized and was conveyed clearly by IIT, Kharagpur and IIT, Delhi that they had nothing to do directly with this firm!
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Commented on own review
Oct 28, 2003 06:50 PM
gurus as well as the top management consulting firms in a last ditch effort are trying to come out with newer models which at best border between being silly and at worst being ridiculous. The same theories are today being reformulated with different and more complicated jargons and new circles, tri...angles, and rectangles added in the same model. English is a beautiful language. From Hallmark to Archies, they all make millions out of this language by putting the same words like “I love you” in millions of different ways in their cards in an effort to produce emotions in their printing factories. Today’s management consulting firms and experts are trying to use the same to keep their profession alive.
Anyway coming back to where we were, the fact is management is no nuclear physics for which a very high IQ is required nor is it so technical that only IIT and other top engineering graduates can understand it. This further drives us towards the fact that the enormously tough entrance tests for MBA education are absolutely unwarranted and unnecessary. Neither has the level of input imparted got anything to do with it (the point about history to engineering students being offered MBA) nor has the nature of application of the subject. In fact the realization today is that people with more EQ (Emotional Quotient) are definitely better material for a successful manager than those with higher IQ who could definitely do the country some good working in the R&D labs for which the government invests so much on them rather than nurturing ambitions of becoming MBAs and then eventually leaving the country as well. These people (from IIT and likes) should either pay up for the investment the government makes on them as well as the opportunity cost or perhaps barred from changing streams or be asked to serve the public sector/defence sector/government initiatives for at least seven to ten years before they are allowed to venture into other areas. At this point Read More
Commented on own review
Oct 28, 2003 06:49 PM
Hello Nishant.. thanks for welcoming me on MS..
After reading this I surely feel u need some help and I’ll try my sincere best. I'm thankful u rated my review very useful, reflecting your genuineness as an aspirant. I also wish you to exonerate any feeling of personal attack on your review.....
Before I attempt to answer your qualms as per your pointers, I want to throw some light on the concept of management education. What I am going to talk about is straight from the notes of Prof. Arindam Chaudhuri’s classes. And it is called the theory of MBA MAFIA. It not only found place in the editorial sections of most leading newspapers, but is also unchallenged by any govt body or IIM talking head.
Management education as a term has been defined, redefined and today it is being ill-defined. It’s common knowledge that management education can be imparted after doing graduation in any stream, be it history, geography, economics, biology, engineering etc. The most important aspect of the above fact is that management is not that well developed a stream for which one has to spend years of education (5 years or more). What it means is if one wants to do Masters in Geography, he necessary has to have a bachelors Degree in Geography and the same is with physics, economics, and all other streams of higher education. This is so as all these streams are very well developed and therefore to understand a Masters level theory for micro biology for example requires a perfect understanding of all the graduation level theories of the same subject. All the other fields of post graduate studies are post graduate in nature because of the higher levels of technicalities and theories in them.
This drives us towards the non challengeable fact that management as a stream of studies is more hype than content. In fact, after a certain point it’s actually not possible to develop it any further. That is why today, famous management experts, international managementRead More
Commented on own review
Oct 25, 2003 03:43 AM
Now the flip side. There is one. IIPM does not take recognition from AICTE which removes it from the recruiter's file of most public sector companies. Now its another story why it is not with AICTE.. for primarily 2 reasons: Firstly, the institute challenges the usual notion as to why a management... institute should fall under the perview of a technical education board (read AICTE= All India Council for Technical Education) where MBA is the most non-technical form of education. Secondly and most importantly, IIPM wud need to downgrade its course content, especially the economics part. And in any case AICTE recognition is a purchasable commodity so it has no credibility. It is only a symbol of minimal acceptable standard for and institute to exist (like ISI mark).
So finally i wud say visit the institute and talk to students at random to find out if you relate yourself to the atmosphere and ideas of the institute. I'll say one has to study at IIPM to understand it.. rest all is assumption!
Mrs Medha, i can confidently tell you that course content and faculties of IIPM are unmatched.. so the learning here is high. But placement record of IIMs is still better and if your son gets admission into IIM- A, B or C, then he should go for it.
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